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R1b-Z2106-CTS8966
父系单倍群R
马姓(钦建堂),南京回族,父系Y:R1b1a1a2a2c(R-Z2106-CTS8966),母系mt:M11a,曾祖母mt:H2b
马姓,南京回族
堂号:钦建堂
辈分字:...国,恩,家,庆...
曾祖父:马嵩山
家族已做Y高通,Y-DNA:R1b1a1a2a2c(R-Z2106-CTS8966)
YFull:https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-CTS8966 YFull ID:YF12717
基因助手:https://geneu.xyz
印欧网站:https://indo-european.info/ie/Paleo-Balkan
Eupedia:https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/30881-Modern-distribution-of-R1b-Z2103
R1b1a1a2a2-Z2103 lineages appear in modern populations as:
曾祖母的母系 H2b
https://www.yfull.com/mtree/H2b/
https://geneu.xyz
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_H_mtDNA.shtml
H2b: found in the Yamna, Srubnaya and Unetice cultures. Found among the Angles and Lombards. Found in Europe, Turkey, Pakistan and India.
堂号:钦建堂
辈分字:...国,恩,家,庆...
曾祖父:马嵩山
家族已做Y高通,Y-DNA:R1b1a1a2a2c(R-Z2106-CTS8966)
YFull:https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-CTS8966 YFull ID:YF12717
基因助手:https://geneu.xyz
印欧网站:https://indo-european.info/ie/Paleo-Balkan
Eupedia:https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/30881-Modern-distribution-of-R1b-Z2103
R1b1a1a2a2-Z2103 lineages appear in modern populations as:
- A Balkan group – mainly of R1b1a1a2a2c-Z2106 lineages,found in Turkey, Bulgaria and Italy, like the sample found in Stalingrad Quarry dated ca. 2670 –, with a central group dominated by R1b1a1a2a2c1a-Z2110 found in Greece and Central Europe.
- An Armenian group – of R1b1a1a2a2a-L584 lineages – found mainly in the Armenian highlands.
- A northern group – of R1b1a1a2a2b-L277.1 lineage, possibly related to the Vučedol sample ca. 2775 BC and the Bell Beaker sample from Szigetszentmikklós ca. 2330 BC.
- R-Z2110(CTS7822,including CTS9219): found in Russia (including Chuvashia), Ukraine, Poland, Hungary, the Balkans, Armenia, Italy, Spain, Britain and Ireland.
- R-Z2109 : found in Germany and Scotland.
曾祖母的母系 H2b
https://www.yfull.com/mtree/H2b/
https://geneu.xyz
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_H_mtDNA.shtml
H2b: found in the Yamna, Srubnaya and Unetice cultures. Found among the Angles and Lombards. Found in Europe, Turkey, Pakistan and India.
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如果族教绑定,回族人就不能宗教信仰自由了:只能信,不能不信;只能信这个,不能信别的。
一是不符合宪法,二是不符合人权自由。
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另外,时间线祖源,上面有好多民族,还有德系犹太人?这是怎么理解的呢?是否是指犹太男性的基因?
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然后是这个 Y 染色体,也就是你最初祖先,却并不是一个典型的东亚人。
目前研究中:
“蒙古中部的元代王族墓,3个贵族,2个 R1b,一个 R1a,其中 R1a 还有STR数据,可以与现有蒙古人都基本无关(该王族在今天的蒙古人中几乎没有后裔),应该不是成吉思汗所在的黄金家族。数据源《Molecular Genealogy of a Mongol Queen’s Family and Her Possible Kinship with Genghis Khan》”
“其中可以看出的是,元代蒙古贵族中,尼伦蒙古之外,很大一部分其实不是常见的C,而是偏西方的R和Q。”
这样看,最初的祖先只能再往西一些,即来自中亚。
R1b 在元代王族中能发现,王族起码是有后人的,然而后裔不属于现今蒙古人,在你这个单个例子上属于回民。
我个人的猜测是:这支或这几支的王族改宗了,从而脱离了蒙古(当然,蒙古当初也是非常繁多的很多群体融合而成的共同体,族裔色彩并不浓厚)。你可以附上你的姓氏与祖籍,我们再探讨探讨。
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另外,我父母都是回族。发一张我的照片给您参考。
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既然祖源里75%以上都是南北方汉族,那为什么Y单倍体是R1b1呢?
我一个本地的同学,他的Y单倍群是O-A9457
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1 位于蒙古西边的突厥部落,被蒙古化;突厥中阿史那是 R1a 的可能性最大,但不排除 R1b。所以一些蒙古化突厥(语)部落可能融入了蒙古诸部,其首领成为了元朝王族(注意是仅首领)。
2 位于中亚的其他印欧人种,被成吉思汗带到中国(即色目人),在汉地安置。
回民马姓一般来源于经名,穆或者其他 M 开头的音节大都本土化为汉姓马。
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https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Z2106/
https://indo-european.info/ie/Paleo-Balkan
A Balkan group – mainly of R1b1a1a2a2c-Z2106 lineages, like the sample found in Stalingrad Quarry dated ca. 2670 –, with a central group dominated by R1b1a1a2a2c1a-Z2110 found in Greece and Central Europe.
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https://www.yfull.com/mtree/H2b/
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_H_mtDNA.shtml
H2b: found in the Yamna, Srubnaya and Unetice cultures. Found among the Angles and Lombards. Found in Europe, Tukrey, Pakistan and India.
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